Legislature(1993 - 1994)

03/19/1993 01:00 PM House JUD

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  HB 113:  CHARITABLE & TELEPHONIC SOLICITING/SALES                            
                                                                               
  Number 055                                                                   
                                                                               
  GAYLE HORETSKI, COMMITTEE COUNSEL, HOUSE JUDICIARY                           
  COMMITTEE, outlined changes that appeared in a draft                         
  committee substitute for HB 113 (CSHB 113 (JUD)), dated                      
  March 18, 1993.  The first change was located on page 2,                     
  line 19.  She stated that the phrase "solicit payment for                    
  the purchase" had been added.  She commented that this                       
  language explained what a telephonic seller could and could                  
  not do regarding a written contract.                                         
                                                                               
  Number 125                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. HORETSKI noted that the criminal penalties section of                    
  HB 113 had been clarified, at the recommendation of the                      
  Department of Law (DOL).  She called members' attention to                   
  page 3, lines 23-30 of CSHB 113 (JUD).  She said that the                    
  criminal penalties' section was a two-tiered system.  A                      
  person would be guilty of a class C felony if he or she                      
  violated the law by trying to sell without having the                        
  written contract for soliciting payment.  If other                           
  provisions of HB 113 were violated, however, a person would                  
  be charged with a class A misdemeanor.                                       
                                                                               
  MS. HORETSKI stated that the next change appeared on page 4,                 
  lines 6-8.  She said that persons registered with the United                 
  States Securities Commission, when acting within the scope                   
  of their license, had been added to the list of exemptions                   
  in HB 113.  She said that this change had been made because                  
  the securities industry was already heavily regulated under                  
  federal law.                                                                 
                                                                               
  Number 140                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. HORETSKI noted that a change had been made regarding the                 
  length of time records had to be kept.  In earlier versions                  
  of HB 113, she said, records were required to be kept for                    
  three years.  That period had now been extended to five                      
  years, she stated.  She called members' attention to page 9,                 
  line 4, and page 11, line 3, where that particular change                    
  was contained.                                                               
                                                                               
  MS. HORETSKI cited new language in the criminal penalties                    
  provision of the charitable organization section of CSHB 113                 
  (JUD).  She said that the new language appeared on page 10,                  
  lines 7-9, and was clarifying language suggested by the DOL.                 
                                                                               
  Number 165                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE GAIL PHILLIPS asked why embalmers and funeral                 
  home directors were exempted from the provisions of HB 113.                  
                                                                               
  Number 170                                                                   
                                                                               
  JUDY MATHIS, LEGISLATIVE AIDE TO REPRESENTATIVE RON LARSON,                  
  PRIME SPONSOR OF HB 113, replied that those particular                       
  professions were already regulated by another agency.  She                   
  noted that Assistant Attorney General Jim Forbes could more                  
  thoroughly answer Representative Phillips' question.                         
                                                                               
  Number 176                                                                   
                                                                               
  JIM FORBES, ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL, DEPARTMENT OF LAW,                   
  spoke via telephone from Anchorage.  He commented that                       
  embalmers and funeral home directors were already                            
  specifically covered by the Consumer Protection Act.  He                     
  said that including them in HB 113 would be duplicative.  He                 
  noted that they could still solicit business over the                        
  telephone without registering with the DOL.                                  
                                                                               
  Number 195                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE PHILLIPS asked Mr. Forbes to clarify his                      
  remarks.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Number 202                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. FORBES responded that by being exempt from HB 113's                      
  provisions, the only thing that funeral home directors and                   
  embalmers were permitted to do was solicit business by                       
  telephonic means, without registering with the DOL.  If the                  
  exemption was eliminated, he noted, they would merely have                   
  to register with the DOL before soliciting business by                       
  telephonic means.                                                            
                                                                               
  Number 234                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE JOE GREEN asked if the exemption for people                   
  registered with the United States Securities Commission                      
  applied to stockbrokers.                                                     
                                                                               
  Number 245                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. FORBES believed that the exemption applied to                            
  stockbrokers.  He commented that people in the securities'                   
  business solicited two types of business over the telephone:                 
  the sale of securities, and the sale of stockbroker                          
  services.  He said that the bill had been recently amended                   
  to cover both of these types of sales, as earlier versions                   
  of HB 113 had merely covered the sale of securities.  He                     
  commented that the securities industry was already very                      
  heavily regulated.                                                           
                                                                               
  Number 274                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN BRIAN PORTER stated that HB 113 would help to deal                  
  with the problem of fraudulent use of telemarketing.                         
                                                                               
  Number 284                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE GREEN made a MOTION to ADOPT CSHB 113 (JUD).                  
  There being no objection, IT WAS SO ORDERED.                                 
                                                                               
  Number 290                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE GREEN made a MOTION to MOVE CSHB 113 (JUD)                    
  out of committee, with individual recommendations and a zero                 
  fiscal note.  There being no objection, IT WAS SO ORDERED.                   
                                                                               
  Number 309                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN PORTER announced that the next item of business                     
  before the committee was HB 137.                                             
                                                                               

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